The very slight weight different of a lighter frame may let you accelerate a bit faster, but that gain will be eaten up by aero losses. Based on linear analysis, he “quality choices” are the ones which form the lower left boundary (lower-left = good, upper-right= bad). Once you launch Zwift and your avatar is ready to ride, click the “Menu” button that appears in the lower left corner. Is the fastest TT bike on the flat, the Felt, faster than than the Venge S-Works Zipp 858/Super9 combo? 1. 1SEC FASTER ON FLAT THAN DT SWISS 62, 1SEC SLOWER ON CLIMBS, FOR ME IS THE SECOND OR THE BEST BY VERY LITTLE ALL ARROUND WHEEL, Because its performance basically matches the DT Swiss wheels… we don’t need two tests of wheels with the same profile. is that the DT Swiss 62 is a pretty good wheelset. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (. Unlocking Zwift’s Concept Z1 bike takes a little planning, and a lot of climbing. If not mistaken, you test with 300W right? Bologna 2 lap which is 50% flat and 50% climb, does the Tron still beat out the Canyon with either DT Swiss or Enve 3.4 overall..? Zwift Hack 100% without Roor and Jailbreak. Good luck! Everest” challenge in Zwift, and start climbing. Plot points are colored based on bike frame: Wheelsets used, in order of aero performance: Not surprisingly, the most aero setup (Venge + 858/Super9) is also the slowest climber, and the best climber (Tarmac Pro + Lightweights) is the slowest on flat ground. been waiting for this one….thanks very much! This bike is called “Concept Z1” and is usually referred to as the Zwift “tron bike”. They’re basically equally affected. Here’s how you earn it. WHY DIDN´T YOU CONSIDER TO PLOT THE ZIPP454? Sorry if I completely missed it: but what is depicted by the bubble size? Read all about unlocking the Concept Z1 bike. Amazing graph, Eric, really appreciate your work and dedication! I’m color blind like Liam … to us purple looks like dark blue , I bought my son a purple bike – both he and I thought it was blue – obviously we are both color blind. Then look at the labels for the horizontal and vertical axis. Most over the points to find out what frame/wheel combo each represents. Now that I am in the very near of level 37 :-), I will buy those 858’s , really looking forward to it :-). Very helpful. Posted by Eric Schlange | Aug 17, 2020 | Speed Tests | 128. (The three highest points in the chart, for example, represent the Zipp 858/Super9 wheelset on the three Specialized frames. Hey Keith, Any thoughts of doing something similar to TT frames? Because that seems a little odd… . I would like to know the same for more average riders with 2W/Kg. Many of these frames and wheels don’t show up in my garage. I’d love to see the fastest TT frames included in there too. What is the Tron bike in Zwift? Presumably on a course that includes climbing, downhills & flat sections the tron bike would be a comfortable winner? Si le Concept Z1 est le plus intéressant sur un parcours mixte, il reste néanmoins difficile à obtenir. So wouldn’t necessarily say the SL7 doesn’t deliver? But once you go above your threshold, even with proper training, it will become very hard very quickly. Good question. The larger bubbles indicate standout performers for flat, mixed, and climbs. This community-driven site is maintained by Eric Schlange and a team of Zwift enthusiasts. It’s the bike that every Zwifter notices and wants. Maybe not VenTop, but on almost all other routes. zwift-login v26 – Multi-user support and uncheck Remember me in Zwift Launcher 2021-01-14 Jesper AutoHotkey , Featured , Update , Windows , zwift-login This is an important update to zwift-login if you have more users sharing the same Zwift installation. I just can’t stomach running a disc on a road race, even virtually. #1–ignoring solo rides, there’s no reason to ride anything other than Tron except when there’s maybe 40+% climbing, then Tarmac Pro. Focus Izalco Max 2020 + Colours of PARI Paintjob Complete one Colours of PARI stage Drop Shop 426,000 Canyon Aeroad 2021 + Zwift Academy Paintjob Complete the 2020 Zwift Academy Zwift Concept Z1 (aka Tron Bike)Climb into Space 50,000ft Fastest on the Flat Frame + Wheelset Trek Emonda Climb Mount Everest… Eric, again, another great chart. Check out your progress by clicking on the Challenges window, and reaching the top of Mt. It’s the strongest option for a mixed course, I’d say. La Zwift Concept Z1, chimata Tron Bike nella community di Zwift, è la bici più ambita di tutto il gioco; scopriamo assieme come ottenerla! How is the tron vs Venge with Enve 7.8 effected by rider weight and height. Notice no green (Tarmac SL7) points made it into this selection. Agree it just looks a bit ackward, als in combo with the Bell helmet i did for a while too..but both disc and aero helmet is not allowed on the Pro Am race so fullest Aero setup is Venge + 858 right? Zwift Concept Z1 (Tron) Bike vs Top Performers. Thank you as always for your hard work. He can’t tell which is purple :). Le Specialized Tarmac Pro reste l’un des plus intéressant notamment pour la montagne. Son prix ? Purple? Easy peasy!Learn more about the Tron bike: https://zwiftinsider.com/tron-bike/ So a Concept Z2 should sit nicely at 3060,2925? Yesterday joined group ride “Off the MAAP Stage 1”, tarmac pro+ enve3.4(lightweight) would be your right choice ×_×, Tronbike: “In a race? Just changed it to yellow, and mentioned it above. #2–the all-rounder wheels (Enve 7.8, Zipp 404, DT Seuss 62) are all fantastic, almost always better than going extreme disk or Millensteins. And I am definitely not consistant over 90 minutes… Read more ». This is very informative. [email protected], Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. I’m level 33. Yeah but who says Zwift doesn’t tweak things once in awhile? Ultimately, he used the hack to unlock the Zwift Concept Z1 “Tron” bike, one of the fastest bikes in the game. You didn’t give the color code for the Tron. Even if they would save me 30 seconds theoretically on the climb, I would have to be consistant enough in performance for that to make a difference. Update (Oct 1, 2020): we’ve added the Canyon Aeroad 2021 to these charts, since it is now the best all-arounder in game. Im surprised the 808s where not in this chart given their performance, accessibility & proliferation. I do love how it doesn’t cost a drop to get the bet bike in the game, just a bit of dedication and a lot of climbing! @Rob do you mean “unless you are doing a climb”? Think of your threshold like a 'red line.' Entries tagged with "zwift concept z1" How to Unlock the Zwift Tron Bike. It would improve legibility if you used different shapes of points to illustrate the wheel legend. Everest,” click on the “Select another challenge” link and choose the correct option. If an illustration that looks like Mt. The Tron bike is the most prized ride in Zwift: it’s fast, eye-catching, and difficult to earn.. What I didn’t know (until now) was how well the Tron climbed. Choose the “Concept Z1” bike, and use the slider to pick the color that you like. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. the most useful anaysis I have seen ! Pretty much sells the Tron as the best bike, regardless. (1) Select the Everest Challenge in Zwift (2) At the top of Mt Everest (8,850m) keep going! Zwift Safety 4 2 Zwift Steel 2 1 Level 7 (7,000 XP) 1/2. Now they’re popping up in Zwift. I was hoping the Tron was less awesome, because I like to use other options to (a) stand out from the crowd of Trons, and (b) more easily see that I am in the draft. Zwift Insider makes a small commission on purchases made from these links, so please shop through them to support our efforts. after compare, Tronbike still be the best choice in race? What I appreciate most about this graph is not only did Eric go above and beyond to show how the Tron stacks up against these frame/wheel combos, it gives a scatter plot of the most likely combinations to be used in non TT races, to boot. 1/4. Thank you for the excellent analysis Eric. (by “matches” I mean depleting efforts, as opposed to just cruising along at a sustainable pace). Then in a flat race, take the disc wheel (if you can stomach it, I can’t) or the 7.8’s on the… Read more », Excellent point… Trading off 1 second of climbing time for 9 seconds faster on the flats is almost always going to be a good tradeoff. The shape of those three points repeats for each wheelset throughout the chart.). But that would have to be a crazy custom route, even surrey hills or four horseman might not be climby enough. To switch to “Climb Mt. I have no clue how to read a scatter plot graph. Über Pretzel Debrief + PRL Full Event Announcement. #3 and most important–the differences really don’t amount to THAT much that we’d notice unless… Read more ». One plot to rule them all :). At the top of Mt Everest (8,850m) keep going! Following the men’s race at the BT Studios at London’s Queen Elizabeth II Olympic Park, Jeffers was found to have manipulated data prior to the event to unlock a Zwift Concept Z1 bike – popularly known as a “Tron” bike – to give himself an advantage over his competitors. My very rough calculation based on the data here suggests that Tron is better than even the best climbing setup until 60-70% climbing. SL7 is a better all-arounder. Climb Alpe du Zwift repeatedly once it’s unlocked, purchasing Tarmac Pro and wait for Lightweight Meilenstein to be unlocked, and eventually get the tron bike. The more I think about this graph the more it seems the following is true: Venge + Zipp 858/Super for only the flattest of courses (Tempus Fugit, Richmond flats, London Classique reverse), Tarmac Pro + Lightweights if you’re chasing KOM/QOM and don’t care about the rest of the course or you’re a beast on the flats but struggle on long climbs, Tarmac Pro + Enve 7.8 on the rare occasions you have equally balanced flats/climbs for your ability Tron for everything else which is the majority of draftable races So in summary, #4 is the most common setup, followed by… Read more », Agreed, you want the Tron for the vast majority of races, only in very specific cases would you not (if you have one). My hunch is that the best sprinters are simply the most aero bikes anyway. Volcano Circuit « In hot Pursuit » La deuxième étape nous amènera faire quelques tours autour du volcan, pour un total de 34.6km et 136m de D+. i.e. Observations. Three simple (but not easy) steps: Select the “Climb Mt. See https://zwiftinsider.com/charts-frames/. o / + / x etc for zipp 858 / enve 7.8 / enve 3.4 etc, Very interesting Eric. And the climbing cue when you drop below 70rpm cadence. The Tron bike (named the “Zwift Concept Z1” in game) is definitely the coolest ride in Zwift (and one of the fastest).How do you get it? I added TT frames to my first scatter plot post: https://zwiftinsider.com/scatter/, Are you asking to have a TT frame vs Tron bike post? But the reward for your hard work is a sleek, awesome, futuristic machine that’s looks like something out of a sci-fi movie. It depends on where you burn your matches. Cyclists love California for the wide variety of ride options available. The Concept Z1–known as a “Tron” bike by Zwifters after the 1982 sci-fi movie of the same name –has in-game performance benefits over Zwift’s starter bicycles. Thank you, Eric! Neglecting the Tron and the Lightweights (not drop-shop), these points are the *Tarmac Pro*: 3.2, 62, 7.8, then *Venge S-Works*: 7.8, 858/9. It’s future-funky, it’s hard to get, and it’s aero!. Thanks Eric, makes sense. And for drafting: is draft benefit independent of bike or is there a link? Eric runs Zwift Insider in his spare time when he isn't on the bike or managing various business interests. Good observations… I’d say if we take out Lightweights, the Tarmac Pro + DT Swiss is a better option over the ENVE 3.4’s, since you only lose 1s of climb time, but gain 9s of flat speed! Hacked Zwift on Android and iOS - tips, wiki. On a separate note, isn’t there a way to exclude (or at least to rank) wheels and frames in the garage? I often ride with the Lightweights but sometimes think they are a little bit “slow”. If there’s any dimples connecting options, the point in the dimple isn’t a good choice, assuming linear analysis. Tron is easy to identify: it’s an outlier to the lower left (more left than low). Definitely a fast choice! But thank you for the work and analysis. SL7 and DT Swiss is the fastest combo until Level 35? Eric Schlange, Webmaster This bike is called “Concept Z1” and is usually referred to as the Zwift “tron bike”. Great stuff Eric! The rules here are simple: go the distance on various bikes in Zwift. How to, Zwift By Theia Friestedt January 3, 2019 6 Comments. (3) Cycle 50,000 metres vertical and you will unlock the coveted Zwift Concept Z1 bike (aka Tron bike) And don't forget to select your mountain legs. Add photo. Based off your summary I get the gist of what the results showed. (3) Cycle 50,000 metres vertical and you will unlock the coveted Zwift Concept Z1 bike (aka Tron bike) And don't forget to select your mountain legs. But the Tron is no longer the prestigious bike it once was as everyone has one these days! The net seems to support the notion that all riders need to get the Tron as early as possible if they care about going as fast as possible. One piece of very useful info (for the riders that are below Level 37,which I would guess are the large majority, aren’t they?) On a perfectly flat course, the Tron is second only to the Venge with the most aero wheels, and just by 3 secs. Good luck! Some may want a bike that climbs a bit better, especially if it’s a long climb (like Road to Sky, up the Alpe). Every time you Zwift, climb as much as you can. We then tested each combination on our standard flat and climb segments. I’m not entirely sure I need to look at any other graphs, except maybe the TT frames for when I do those. We’ve enlarged the points which lie along the bottom-left of the grouping, since these are the top performers. I’m running tests with those now, will add them to the chart. Also, there is still nuance and debate on how hilly is hilly and how flat is flat enough to use certain combos as these are tested at the extremes. But for most Zwift races (flat or short climbs), it’s a very good choice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqoZego-3Ag. Only two questions. They’re the same speed as the ENVE 7.8’s on flat, slightly slower on climb. Our wheel and frame performance charts are useful tools, but they don’t answer one crucial question for many Zwift racers: how does X frame and Y wheelset compare with the Zwift Concept Z1 (Tron) bike? But unlocking the Concept bike requires that you climb a total of 164,042 feet (50,000 meters). It’s goofy. The Tarmac SL7 doesn’t quite deliver, with the Venge, Aeroad 2021, and Tarmac Pro presenting better options across the board. I quite like your scatter plot method of displaying the data and your inclusion of Tron data was the missing piece of the puzzle. British Cycling’s statement. Fantastic work. Everest appears, you might have already chosen the challenge that leads you to unlocking the Concept bike. Thanks for the info but I’d wish they’d do away with that Tron bike. Climb a total of 50,000 meters and you’ll unlock the coveted Zwift Concept Z1 bike, affectionately known in the Zwift community as the “Tron bike”. Following the men’s race at the BT Studios at London’s Queen Elizabeth II Olympic Park, he was found to have manipulated data prior to the event to unlock a Zwift Concept Z1 bike – popularly known as a “Tron” bike – to give himself an advantage over his competitors. Saddle your iron horses and rush forward in a digital copy of the real world and make Madone is faster on flats, but a worse climber. Fantastic analysis, great to see how the Tron ranks. Lost in the beauty of those charts are a few very basic takeaways when focusing on actual numbers. Zwift Concept Z1 3 3 Complete the Everest challenge, then climb another 41,150 meters. Read more here >. Maybe they could change the lights on the tron bike to reflect that you are in the draft? So that’s ven-top and road to sky. . And lightweight-bike advantages could increase on the Alpe ? Particularité: Tout le monde sera sur un ‘Tron bike‘ (Zwift Concept Z1), d’où le ‘Glow in the night’ ^^ 2. So of course, you want it in your garage (where it’s called the “Zwift Concept Z1” by the way). But the reward for your hard work is a sleek, awesome, futuristic machine that’s looks like something out of a sci-fi movie. Thx. 今こそ、ZwiftのClimb Mt. I think he is asking whether drafting lowers your drag coefficient by a fixed percentage or do bikes own aero characteristics effect the draft, in this chart i found venge s-work is better than tarmac sl7, with the “right wheels”, venge only slightly fall behind when climbing. Add photo. Now click on the “Challenges” window in the middle right section of the menu. , been waiting for something like this for awhile. The ‘botting’ helped Jeffers unlock the Zwift Concept Z1 bike (commonly referred to as the Tron bike). いやー長かった。 Zwiftをやっていると、このバイクに乗っている人がちらほらいてかっこいいなぁと。 一般的にはトロンバイクと呼ばれているやつです。 実はこのバイク、かっこいいだけじゃなくて性能も優れているんです。 zwiftinsider.com※最速バイクの組み合わせは Cervelo S5 + 808(Fr) +… But did you know there’s something you can do to make your Zwift Concept Z1 bike a bit cooler and stand out from the Tron crowd? Everywhere else Tron is the best bike, unless you have a mountain finish on an already very hilly stage. Not surprisingly, the most aero setup (Venge + 858/Super9) is also the slowest climber, and the best climber (Tarmac Pro + Lightweights) is the slowest on flat ground. has changed my mind going back to the Tron bike! Daily Lama EP33: ZWIFT TRON BIKE! What’s your weight? Il a tout simplement triché afin de débloquer plus rapidement un vélo virtuel, le Zwift Concept Z1, lui procurant un avantage en compétition. Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), A Virtual World of Real Opportunity: Women and eRacing, All About Zwift’s Updated Feather and Burrito Powerups, This community-driven site is maintained by Eric Schlange and a team of Zwift enthusiasts. These are awesome comparisons. THANK YOU for putting these charts together. Then I’m reminded that back in c grade I really should lose some weight irl to save the minute spread on climbs and the 40 second spread on the flats. Thank you Eric for all the performance number crunching you’ve done on this topic. We all know the Tron bike is the coolest ride in Zwift. The Tron bike is the biggest standout, turning in a blazing fast flat test and mid-pack climb times. After lots of testing, we’ve created a scatter plot chart pitting the Tron bike against top-performing wheels and frames. I mean I went to Northwestern so props for the color, but you gotta label you categories.+. If we were to use the same data but color the points based on wheelset, you would see a repeating pattern. Everest by ascending 29,035 “vertical” feet (8,850 meters) is a great accomplishment. This site contains affiliate links to Amazon, Wahoo, and other brands. We took the three top-performing frames and paired them with seven top-performing wheelsets for a total of 21 combinations. I’m thinking maybe it matters more to lighter riders than heavier ones. Unlocking Zwift’s Concept Z1 bike takes a little planning, and a lot of climbing. Running tests now, will add to the chart! I just got mine but keep doing events with sponsored equipment and havent had a real chance to try it out LOL. The Tron isn’t the fastest on flats, and it’s DEFINITELY not the fastest on climbs. From the Menu, click the “Customize” button. Thanks for the pointer! The ENVE 7.8 wheels made a surprisingly good showing as “aero all-arounders”, as do the DT Swiss ARC 62s. “. If you ride on Zwift, you have probably seen the cool looking bike with glowing wheels. Your scenario 2 is really the only time you wouldn’t use the Tron, for courses with no flat/downhill. Thanks Eric, great info. It’s the ultimate customization for your avatar, it’s FAST, and it’s a testament to your climbing abilities! Here's how to do it. With these two frames and these wheels you can fine-tune the performance to the course: there’s no benefit from anything else (except for lower levels). Stay below this line, and you can go for a long time (longer, even, than you want to!). Even on pancake flat, the Venge with heaviest disk only shaves a couple seconds over almost an hour. ※TTフレーム版も作成しました 以前の記事でフレームとホイールの重量・エアロ効果を算出しました。 Zwiftinsiderにてフレーム・ホイールの総合ランキングが公開されています。 Zwift Speed Tests: Frame Ranking Charts - Zwift Insider Detailed performance data for all Zwift road bike frames. So I’d say in a climbing race, I would take the Tarmac Pro + the 7.8’s or DT Swiss. Return to the virtual roads and show off your new machine. Zwift How-To: Adjusting Your Trainer Difficulty. No way to sort/rank garage items at this time. Has to be really flat –… Read more ». So, bottom line, the Tron is, by far, the best bike in the game, unless you’re doing a perfectly flat race or time trial. So I use the 858’s. What conclusions do you draw from this chart? The SL7 points are basically on the same diagonal as the tarmac pro, apart from on the lightweights where the pro seems to be about 6 seconds quicker than expected. Now I see why…and it appears I’ll be back on the Tron for the foreseeable future. I don’t mean anyone in particular. Keep going! As the sterzo comes more into play though the importance of knowing you are in the draft may lower the value of the tron as you do not get that feedback. And do you have any idea whether the draft bonus is equal for all bikes? As soon as you achieve your goal, a banner will appear while you’re Zwifting. At least for it wasn’t so clear until now. Zwift 8-Bit 4 2 Zwift Aero 3 3 Level 13 (28,000 XP) Zwift BigWheel 2 2 Zwift Carbon 3 2 Default bike, always unlocked. I would like to see it tested with the best combos here, please . Vous devriez sentir les différences par rapport à votre vélo en acier du niveau 1 de Zwift !
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